Question for straight male doms/masters

sebastian · Dec 16, 2010

I think you're reading a lot more into his comments than is there. As I read him, he's saying that a master who identifies as straight is unlikely to went a slave or pet of the same sex, because those are by nature sexualized roles, and straight masters generally don't want slaves of the same sex. Note that his comment presupposes a master who is completely straight (the 'if' in the previous sentence). He's not saying that no straight master would do this, only that a master who identifies as completely straight is unlikely to do this ("the possibility...diminishes quickly"). Now, you can, and should, disagree if you think that straight masters are willing to take gay slaves--your own example is reasonable evidence--but that doesn't mean he's trying to belittle masters who are less than totally straight. I think he's just saying it will be hard to find one who will. And I think that's something that
Shy needs to hear. What he's looking for _is_ a little unusual.

One of the things I've learned from watching arguments erupt on the Internet is that it's important to not take offense unless absolutely necessary, because how communication operates on the internet is quite different from how it operates in person. You're reading L8's words, but not you're not getting his intonation, his body language and other critical elements of communication. His actual words are only about 7% of his communication. Had you heard him say that in person, you probably would have been able to figure out more of what he meant. Boiled down to writing posted in a hurry, it's extremely important when reading something that upsets you to ask yourself "Is there any way I might have misconstrued his post?" and if the answer is yes, then assume you did misconstrue and ask for clarification. If, after clarification, the thought is still offensive, then call him on it. In other words, give people the benefit of the doubt until they remove it.

As a gay man, I notice homophobic stuff pretty easily. In all my interactions with L8, I've never noticed anything I thought was homophobic or otherwise inappropriate.

L8NightQ · Dec 17, 2010

Wow - Guess I should have stayed on a little longer. Then again, maybe not.

Stv - your answer confused me, but I didn't think my response to your post would generate that kind of rant.

One of the things I like about this forum is that the members here usually ask for a little more clarification before the teardown starts.

I will not hijack shy's first post to argue with you.... but I will respond.

You don't know me. You don't know where I've been or what I've done.
What you might know is that I have commented on two of the 10 or so posts you've had here, including your first one about ten days ago. Neither of them was judgmental, self-serving, or placed to hear myself speak.
My impression was that we are here to share ideas and experiences. Not tear each other down.

I don't know you. My perception of you can only come from reading your posts, and, yes, questioning stuff that doesn't seem to make sense, as I did with you. I am well aware that you might have been able to clear it up, but did you really think that no one would look at what you wrote and go "huh?
Your response was Napoleonic.

What I said about Kinsey and the scale was an attempt to demonstrate that we are not all black or white, vanilla or kinky, but a mixture, for the most part, of a lot of different things along a continuum.
This is why what shy was looking for was not impossible.

I still stand by what I said, and if I find that I offended shy in any way, I will apologize, explain, or both.

Wish you had given me the choice too.

I'll state the obvious here.... If you don't like me or what I say, you do have the option of never responding to me.

Thank you Sebastian, for keeping both eyes open.... as usual.

ShySJChub · Dec 18, 2010

Thank you everyone for the replies and for welcoming me to the forum.

And yes, sebastian, I think a large part of it has to do with the humiliation of serving someone who's not attracted to me at all. I think a lot of it has to do with being viewed as an object rather than a partner. I have a fetish related to BDSM called macrophilia (see coiledfist.org) in which I imagine being shrunk to only a few inches tall. I would be completely at the mercy of whoever found me, gay or straight. I like the idea though, of just being a piece of property to a man, rather than a boyfriend/lover/etc.

stvstvns, you do seem to be what I'm looking for. A straight man who doesn't care what gender/etc. someone is that serves as his property.

princedorian · Dec 21, 2010

interesting. I am a gay-slave, and I serve my Master mostly as a house-maid, butler, human furniture, etc. but there is always sexual attraction involved (as I am to be naked at all times). Our relationship is confined to two people, but sometimes we experiment. Once I was presented to my Master's friend (a straight man). The humiliation of being naked and on your knees in front of someone who isn't going to use you as a sex slut was really humiliating. He allowed me to clean his shoes and be his footstool, but didn't want to touch me and even tried to avoid looking at me. Therefore I believe that straight master having a male sub is unlikely

Ruelee · Dec 21, 2010

Not so, I say again.
Mostly because I'm in that very position for now
I'll grant that sex isn't likely to be high on the list - but I hadn't really counted on it being there.
Call me strange, but knowing that, I'm more interested in the serving part this time round.

princedorian · Dec 22, 2010

Ruelee, could you write something more about your position? It sounds intriguing. I guess I could limit myself to servitude if need arise, but I also consider giving oral pleasure, foot worship, as an "extended scope" of being a servant. So, how does it feel? Are you aroused while serving to the same extent, knowing there will be no sex?

Ruelee · Dec 22, 2010

Actually, it's fairly simple - at least for now, as it only started recently.
It's pretty much the same as a normal - if there is such a thing - Master/slave relationship, except I know full well that the chances of anything sexual with Master are remote. It means I'm left to my own ends to do something about that if I want to get release, which so far I'm allowed some liberty in doing. I'm pretty sure that will change with time.
Whether this means I'll be doing something sexual with someone else if Master were to decide so, I can't say yet.
But definitly, the idea of serving a straight Master does arouse me, perhaps not quite as much as if sexual were an option, but it still does.

Best suggestion I can give you is to talk to your Master and see what he considers to be outright not-straight, some I imagine wouldn't say no to having their slave give them a blowjob, but others might be uncomfortable. Communication, as always, is the key there.

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