Advice on strangulation

[sillylittlepet]

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I guess the question is why would you bully your mistress into something she doesnt trust herself to do?

BDSM is about trust at its core, I think you're just gonna have to let this one go

 

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[sillylittlepet]

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hearing i can't is hard to sink in sometimes.

(To the the mod OLP: I am so sorry, I just cant help myself)

 

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[Infinia]

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I haven't tried to bully her havent even brought it up again just looking for my sake mostly.
lol I am dealing by doing what i can and if everyone says your an idiot for trying then i did try and that does matter.

I'd never ask mistress to do something she's uncomfortable with but it doesnt hurt to ask and get info and opinions right.

 

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[sillylittlepet]

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maybe bully wasnt the right word, I'm just saying if your mistress isnt comfortable then its best not to press the issue. Especially since she's doing it because she's concerned for your health and obviously cares a lot about you

Its shame though, because if you didnt have such bad asthma and were at (I assume) higher risk for heart attacks there might be a way to somehow make it somewhat safe. But considering all the risks and possibilities it just doesnt sound like a good idea

EDIT: heeey let me just say the same thing over and over again. I am very original

 

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[Infinia]

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i was wondering when you'd catch on lol

 

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[sillylittlepet]

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I'm slow like a briiiccckkk

-cries-

 

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[RS1981]

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I know this is a fairly old thread, but I figured I'd put in my own question. Do the same risks apply with things like throatfucking? Some of those chicks in porn can take a cock down their throat for quite a while, and sometimes they even have their noses held shut. I do realize a person can still breathe through their nose with something in their throat, which is why I mentioned the nose plugging. My pet enjoys things like that so I wanted to see how much risk was involved.

 

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[L8NightQ]

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Contrary to popular belief, they can't breath when being throat fucked. The nose thing just adds to the visual and stops them from breathing on the upstroke when it clears the throat .

It's not really dangerous unless a person is stopped from breathing long enough for the blood to become oxygen deficient and loaded with CO2. That's when the enzyme kicks in.
Here is an excerpt from Jay Wiseman's document;

Quick pathophysiology lesson # 1: When the heart gets low on oxygen, it starts to fire off "extra" pacemaker sites.

These usually appear in the ventricles and are thus called premature ventricular contractions -- PVC's for short. If a PVC happens to fire off during the electrical repolarization phase of cardiac contraction (the dreaded "PVC on T" phenomenon, also sometimes called "R on T") it can kick the heart over into ventricular fibrillation -- a form of cardiac arrest.

The lower the heart gets on oxygen, the more PVC's it generates, and the more vulnerable to their effect it becomes, thus hypoxia increases both the probability of a PVC-on-T occurring and of its causing a cardiac arrest.

Here is another link to a site that talks about it, including his reference

http://www.epedominion.com/HealthSafty/breath.htm

We also talk about this in the FAQ - Sebastian just added a full post on it. Check the end of the FAQ

So it's not so much the choking... It's the choking to the point of dizzyness, and fainting, or anything that would trigger the above reference (drowning counts too).

 

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[RS1981]

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So if I'm understanding right, breath play is okay as long as it's not extreme to cause dizzyness? She does enjoy having her breathing shut off for a few seconds, but not to that point. It gives her a rush even though she doesn't feel like she's anywhere close to passing out.

 

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[sebastian]

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Well, to judge from Wiseman's description, a few moments of breath play is probably not too risky. If the goal is to create the illusion of asphyxiation without actually reducing the sub's oxygen supply, it's probably safe. My thought would be that the moment the sub starts struggling for air you know you've gone too far; however, that doesn't mean that you haven't gone too far if the sub hasn't started to struggle yet. That's why Wiseman thinks that breath play is too risky to really do--you can't know that what you're doing is actually safe.

 

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